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Obama’s Green-Car Plan Hits Limits

Bloomberg -- President Barack Obama’s administration is buying fewer hybrid and electric cars and more vehicles that can consume both ethanol and gasoline to meet 2015 environmental goals, favoring older technology over new.

Obama gave speeches across the U.S. last year touting his twin goals of buying only alternative-fuel vehicles for the U.S. fleet by 2015 and getting 1 million electric vehicles on the country’s roads by that year.


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MAC48
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 10:04:36 AM

Is anyone really surprised by this result? Anyone with any common sense knew that all EVs and most hybrids were not ready for prime time and "official" Federal government pronouncements or policy moves will not make the current EVs and hybrid generation or the generation that will be available in the near future (20 to 30 years away) ready for prime time.
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remay
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 8:37:08 AM

"... buying fewer hybrid and electric cars and more vehicles that can consume both ethanol and gasoline to meet 2015 environmental goals ..."

So... the hybrids and EVs do NOT meet the 2015 goal???
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 2:10:44 AM

really
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snappytom2
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 5:14:55 PM

So?
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my2002m
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 4:27:55 PM

His limo doesn't use ethanol and isn't a hybrid.
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portlandcat
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 4:26:29 PM

"Rather than leading the way, the government has discovered that the high cost of hybrids and electric cars and their lack of availability often mean it makes more sense to buy cars with fuel-efficient conventional engines." So for the President, it's do as I say, not as I do....That doesn't work here in America....and it doesn't jive with his share the wealth/burden philosophy...
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 4:16:02 PM

making promises he can't keep . .
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CVA19
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 3:42:57 PM

What's the matter, Mr President; is the "real world" putting a crimp in your progressive style?
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 3:32:32 PM

Ok
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mageetp
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 2:12:02 PM

I think he is on the right track, some of the technology is not yet all there, but will get better in the future. Some people just can not accept new things or concepts.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:47:50 PM

more blah blah blah...
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katmandue
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:47:24 PM

they are just not producing enough of the hybrids and electric an the infrastructure isn't there for electric.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:43:06 PM

Yesterday, he said the government was converting to CNG.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:39:54 PM

I really wish Obama would one day practice what he preaches.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:39:18 PM

whatever the Obama administration does, there will be a whole bunch of people saying it is wrong.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:36:00 PM

heck with the electric etc. Its a horrible situation to begin with.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:34:29 PM

"Do as I say, not as I do."
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Election year politics....make the people pay to get reelected.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:32:30 PM

It goes to show you that you can't believe anything he says.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:32:25 PM

WOW
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:30:15 PM

Did that man go and LIE AGAIN? Shame on him! I wonder who he blamed it on this time?
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We need a plan B pill for our government. We need to start over.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:29:28 PM

They should not be making these decisions - they are killing this nation!!
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:26:22 PM

WTF
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:25:50 PM

Obama is misguided on this issue!
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:25:22 PM

Good or bad, DC is going to do what it wants to do.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:24:39 PM

Ok, time for Plan B! We do have a Plan B don't we?
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:23:31 PM

??rekey?? gov't. ..need some coffee, do ya!!
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:23:19 PM

The because the Fed's like big vehicles to carry 1 or 2 people.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:23:17 PM

Maybe Obama the idiot is waking up to reality, but I doubt it.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:23:09 PM

More socialist manipulation to force their agenda... no thanks
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:23:02 PM

Two faced, flip-flopping pile of dog squeeze.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:21:54 PM

we all have dreams, but most don't ever happen.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:21:24 PM

The Liar-in-chief stikes again. Now he is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. What's the matter? don't the federal employes that drive government cars like those little electric puddle jumpers? He will never see 1 million electric vehicles on the raod by the end of presidencey--January 2013.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:21:13 PM

Good for the government.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:20:10 PM

OK
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:18:42 PM


Just more cowabunga! Who knows what OBozzo's administration is going to do next? He sure doesn't know!

Obama is constantly blaming anything & everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I inherited this mess. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise his own powerlessness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. But really, what were we to expect ? The man has never been responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?

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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:17:03 PM

typical osama, says one thing does something different all together
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:14:07 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:13:51 PM

Ok,so what is next?
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:13:08 PM

Obambam just trying to get votes...
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:11:43 PM

Lotsa talk but hybrids and electric cars are not going places like Obama figured on. Too many problems. And too costly. Only makes sense for people to buy vehicles that can get better gas mileage - the old tried and true engines and technology.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:11:27 PM

When Obama and his all cronies all use "Green Cars" exclusively for all their own transportation, I might consider one. But he's a do what i say person, not a do what I do.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:11:17 PM

Its about time we learn that EV's and Hybrid is too expensive and not economically feasible. CNG is the real answer with the abundance of Natural gas. It is about 40% lower than gasoline.

Obama needs to promote more stations and more conversion of cars to be able to run both gasoline and CNG. Tax credits to CNG cars is better than the Hybrids or EV's.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:10:46 PM

More wishful thinking.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:10:13 PM

QualTekGuy, Exactly!!!!!!
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:07:30 PM

Ok.
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Blah, blah, Blah
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:05:41 PM


It's all about the immediate money...the government doesn't have the vision to see the future benefit.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 1:05:35 PM

Vote the bum out!
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